Posts by Vernon Williams

just wanted to fill you all in on what's been going on with me lately....... well it's been about a month and a half and i've been to 2 congregation meetings within that time span.

i've gotten no calls from any of the elders accept two, and they might've called twice each at the most, but it does seem like they're inquiring about me through another person at the moment.

but either way, i feel im on the right track with fading, and i really don't care about what the elders think anymore, or any other jw for that matter.. my dad who was on my case hard at first has backed off.

Vernon Williams

Wonderful report!

A time of rest and relaxation in this exiting process is so important. I am glad you are, wisely, I think anyway, taking the time to de-stress. Good for you!

Yours in this Journey,

V

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Universal Soverienty

by emptywords in

one of the biggest tests for me when learning with the jw was why god permitted wickedness, suffering, cruelty ect... they say because of the issue involving jehovah'suniversal soverienty, satans challenge to gods right to rule..gen 3:15. and how we are all involved in this issue (job).

also people will have to know i am jehovah (ezekiel 36:23: 39:7) the sanctification of gods name is placed as the highest importance for the issue of u. s.. i have always had a problem with this, as for me i can't understand how god could allow so much cruelty just to prove satan a liar and through inhereted sin we to are involved in this because adam was our fleshly father.

does this sound egotistical to you, or am i really evil for even thinking that there is something wrong with all this.. so do you see a connection with " why god has allowed wickedness, and the issue of his universal soverienty"..

Vernon Williams

This is another "hand me a puke bag" topic:

The soverienty of God was NEVER in dispute. NEVER, never, never....

The Creator has ALWAYS been in total and complete charge of all things.

This "soverienty" issue is only an issue with the JWs. They are, of course, spirtually insane, so....

On the allowance of evil: my take: it makes no sense to me, however, CS Lewis, in his book "Mere Christianity" gives the best explanation I have heard or read to date.

Get the book, a glass of tea, and enjoy.

V

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red sky

by darth frosty in

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red sky.

i woke up on the grass field.. i must have time traveled to this distant land.. i hear birds chirping, i feel the heavens moving and my god......... theres a fire in the sky.. .

i can't tell if the sun is break night or if the night is engulfing the sun.

Vernon Williams

Cool.....

V

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What do you think?

by jaguarbass in

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my wife of 35 years and i were talking last night.

i was raised a witness.

she became a witness on her own volition at about 13 years old.

Vernon Williams

Jag,

I sent a pm.

V

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Did You Like Your Congregation?

by minimus in

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the hall i was in the last few years was not a bad place.

most of the people were middle class, some had college educations (like the po and his wife); they generally weren't over critical.

of course there were a few elders and publishers that were pains but for the most part the people in that hall were pretty decent.

Vernon Williams

No.

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Will The New Watchtower Kill Off The Awake?

by metatron in

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i don't know if any of you have considered this but is the new watchtower arrangement partly intended.

to permit the end of the awake magazine?.

it is a financially difficult thing for a religion the size of the "truth" to publish one - much less two .

Vernon Williams

Met,

What do you mean it is "financial difficult?"

What evidence is there either mag is a money looser?

This is a new thought to me.

V

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Did You Take Your "Ministry" Seriously?

by minimus in

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since all jehovah's witnesses are "ministers" and are to act like "watchmen" so as to not be bloodguilty before jehovah god, would you say that you, personally were a fine zealous preacher?

did you make sure that you accurately kept your house-to-house records up to date?

did you make sure you were back in a timely fashion once you placed literature?

Vernon Williams

Very.

V

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What's the main purpose to the out of town Assemblies?

by JH in

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with all the meetings jw's attend each week, why do they need a district assembly or circuit assembly?.

is it to show how big the organization is or is it just to baptize a few.. couldn't this be done staying in their home town.

is there a financial advantage to the watchtower to have these assemblies out of town ?.

Vernon Williams

I have talked to old timers: the DC would run over a week....days twelve hours long or so....no air conditioning....wretched living quarters....trips to the DC from the place they were staying miles and miles...

It was this horror storty and, guess what: They LOVED it.

Of course this was the group that survived the Great Depression and WW 11 and never left Dudsville, USA. A county fair was a heart stopper: think of what a DC was to them!!!!

What it is now, I don't know...or care.

The one thing I miss the LEAST is the misery of a DC or a CA. I can not tell you the intense, soul satisfying relief of knowing I will not be going to one of these mind-embalming, bathroom short, wish I had some money for decent food, propaganda, short term concentration camps.

Sighing happily,

V